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  • I have been giving CrossFire west some heavy critics for the past years. There's a good reason for that, since they simply do not listen to their community no longer nor add things into the game which makes it more enjoyable and less problematic for the players.

    We have experienced such a hassle with this game for years now, a lot of people are complaining and coming with their points of view on the game. We have a suggestion forum and a regular CrossFire topic threads on z8games. Most of these forum post do not get any form of recognition from the game masters or votes from the community. However, really bad suggestions and little intellect post gets more attention then the others. We get no form of validations on the forum when it comes to suggesting things that already should have been in the game to begin with, examples on this are: Full screen windowed mode, being able to save the key-bindings without needing to re-bind them every time we restart the game or switch servers, fix the ranking system (no players are in bronze rank, as well the rank points that are given are too little when your score is very good), being able to report multiple players in one report, instead of reporting each invidual hacker (It's too time consuming), remove character collision in mutation mode so people can't block soldiers, have an automatic kick system that kick botters from the game (These botters are ruining the game, why? well they put both sides in a disadvantage, making for example mutants not being able to mutate the soldiers. As well the soldiers can be put in a disadvantage if multiple soldiers are being afk, leading to that they have not enough firing power to win the round), fix the chat filter(there's a lot of words that cannot be said in-game which aren't offensive at all, and some words can be said which are offensive), replace the black market win chances with a better once (from my experiance and many others, this black market winning system is rigged. There was one day where everyone won one or more permanent cosmetics throught the whole day. Nonstop was players winning from crates, there was at least 30 winners every minute for one full day. This proves that the black market system is not based on % win rate at all, but is either based which day and what time you open the crate. If you check the game, you can se that the winnings are not won evenly throughout the day. Playes either win a lot within the timeframe, but if they open crates outside the winning timeframe they win nothing), and the last thing is to actually fix the bugs that we players find and report.

    There's of course a lot of more examples on what should have already been implemented in this game or fixed, too make the game more stable, more friendlier for players and more better for the community. However the game master seem to be very ignorant, and little cooperative for some reasons. I'm not sure why they act this way, but it's very unprofessional to ignore or avoid the community in this way.

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    • This problem goes on CFPH as well, though a lot of players choose to be silent and settle for less since you'll be criticized if you talk/complain too much.

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    • Hey its the CF EU pirate guy.


      You make some great points that should be addressed in Crossfire.

      • Mutants should be able to pass through each other to prevent that annoying blocking that is so prevalent in Mutation Modes.
      • The chat filter should be updated so that innocent words are not blocked, as it can get frustrating to type something normal then it gets censored.
      • CF Publishers should post on their websites the high win chance times of each permanent weapon/character in the Black Market. You as a spinner should know the possibilities of winning at any given time. Lots of other games with gacha post the win chances, even mobile ones.
        • I certainly noticed the time of day can greatly affect the chance of winning. In CF PH, pistols are often won in early morning, submachine guns during 11:00 PM to 5:00 AM, and M4A1 assault rifles during 1:00 to 9:00 PM.
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    • I agree on all points except the black market thing. They publicly said that it is % and you aren't gaurenteed anything from the black market because it's complete luck, but it's the lowest % of all other versions. The only reason why the Costumes weren't won consistently is because of the player count that dips and gains throughout the day. More players are on around 2 AM PST because of the Egyptian population, then dies down towards Lunch time PST. If you stare at the server selection the whole day then you'll clearly see how fast it dies down and then ramps up again 12 hours later for the US and EU population. The only reason why everyone was winning because it was a high percentage and you could get the crates for free meaning more people spinning.

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    • Settiings wrote:
      I agree on all points except the black market thing. They publicly said that it is % and you aren't gaurenteed anything from the black market because it's complete luck, but it's the lowest % of all other versions. The only reason why the Costumes weren't won consistently is because of the player count that dips and gains throughout the day. More players are on around 2 AM PST because of the Egyptian population, then dies down towards Lunch time PST. If you stare at the server selection the whole day then you'll clearly see how fast it dies down and then ramps up again 12 hours later for the US and EU population. The only reason why everyone was winning because it was a high percentage and you could get the crates for free meaning more people spinning.

      Then why aren't people winning crazy on every other events where people can gain up to 50 crates for free? We have those event every month, and that specific halloween crate made everyone win at least 30 times within a minute. The chat was flooded through the whole day with people winning cosmetics, and players won mutiple times within small amounts of crates.

      Take this person for example, he won 4 items within 20 crates http://forum.z8games.com/forum/crossfire/crossfire-barracks/6869646-fishy

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    • Yaboipirate1 wrote:Then why aren't people winning crazy on every other events where people can gain up to 50 crates for free? We have those event every month, and that specific halloween crate made everyone win at least 30 times within a minute. The chat was flooded through the whole day with people winning cosmetics, and players won mutiple times within small amounts of crates.

      Take this person for example, he won 4 items within 20 crates http://forum.z8games.com/forum/crossfire/crossfire-barracks/6869646-fishy

      Because of a higher win chance.

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    • "Settiings wrote:
      Yaboipirate1 wrote:Then why aren't people winning crazy on every other events where people can gain up to 50 crates for free? We have those event every month, and that specific halloween crate made everyone win at least 30 times within a minute. The chat was flooded through the whole day with people winning cosmetics, and players won mutiple times within small amounts of crates.

      Take this person for example, he won 4 items within 20 crates http://forum.z8games.com/forum/crossfire/crossfire-barracks/6869646-fishy

      Because of a higher win chance.

      Wrong! According to z8games FAQ they stated that all crates has the same win chances, they are not allowed to manipulated the chances of winning.


      I quoet this word by word! "The Black Market system is a luck-based system where players purchase a crate knowing that they will receive three random items when they open any crate. This system is purely based on luck and there is no guarantee for any user to win a specific weapon from a crate. All players have the same chance of winning from these crates, and Z8Games Staff members do not and cannot increase, decrease, or manipulate the winning rate of any crate under any circumstances."

      The sources are taken directly from their official webpage. http://support.z8games.com/us/index.php?/Knowledgebase/Article/View/201/11/why-do-i-not-win-anything-from-the-black-market

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    • Yaboipirate1 wrote:
      "Settiings wrote:
      Yaboipirate1 wrote:Then why aren't people winning crazy on every other events where people can gain up to 50 crates for free? We have those event every month, and that specific halloween crate made everyone win at least 30 times within a minute. The chat was flooded through the whole day with people winning cosmetics, and players won mutiple times within small amounts of crates.

      Take this person for example, he won 4 items within 20 crates http://forum.z8games.com/forum/crossfire/crossfire-barracks/6869646-fishy

      Because of a higher win chance.
      Wrong! According to z8games FAQ they stated that all crates has the same win chances, they are not allowed to manipulated the chances of winning.


      I quoet this word by word! "The Black Market system is a luck-based system where players purchase a crate knowing that they will receive three random items when they open any crate. This system is purely based on luck and there is no guarantee for any user to win a specific weapon from a crate. All players have the same chance of winning from these crates, and Z8Games Staff members do not and cannot increase, decrease, or manipulate the winning rate of any crate under any circumstances."

      The sources are taken directly from their official webpage. http://support.z8games.com/us/index.php?/Knowledgebase/Article/View/201/11/why-do-i-not-win-anything-from-the-black-market

      You know they can lie and just say that, the simple fact is that crate was released with higher chances of winning even before the crate was a free event. It says in the thread you linked, the guy said he won all of them when it was orignally released 2 years ago, and once again they didn't maniupluate it since 2 years ago.

      "This Halloween Costume crate was introduced 2 years ago and was purchasable on the Black Market then and last year for cheaper than any other BM crate and yes the win rate is higher. Note that just because the win rate is higher doesnt mean you'll win....but it is more likely. I won all 5 permanent items in it the first year it was available within like 50 or 80 crates."

      There's their loop hole, they released it with higher odds of other crates, but never changed it from 2 years ago. It's the developers choice on win percentage for the initial crate release, if they change it then they could easily get sued. 

      So once again, they are able to change it BEFORE it releases, but can't change it after. Besides, I don't think any other versions had this exact crate so it must have been a curated crate to begin with.

      EDIT: Besides I'm not trying to argue, I think the stuff devs do by giving themselves all the weapons or select weapons that haven't been released yet is bullshit. But the crate issue isn't one they can mess with because of legal reasons.

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    • Yaboipirate1 wrote:
      "Settiings wrote:
      Yaboipirate1 wrote:Then why aren't people winning crazy on every other events where people can gain up to 50 crates for free? We have those event every month, and that specific halloween crate made everyone win at least 30 times within a minute. The chat was flooded through the whole day with people winning cosmetics, and players won mutiple times within small amounts of crates.

      Take this person for example, he won 4 items within 20 crates http://forum.z8games.com/forum/crossfire/crossfire-barracks/6869646-fishy

      Because of a higher win chance.
      Wrong! According to z8games FAQ they stated that all crates has the same win chances, they are not allowed to manipulated the chances of winning.


      I quoet this word by word! "The Black Market system is a luck-based system where players purchase a crate knowing that they will receive three random items when they open any crate. This system is purely based on luck and there is no guarantee for any user to win a specific weapon from a crate. All players have the same chance of winning from these crates, and Z8Games Staff members do not and cannot increase, decrease, or manipulate the winning rate of any crate under any circumstances."

      The sources are taken directly from their official webpage. http://support.z8games.com/us/index.php?/Knowledgebase/Article/View/201/11/why-do-i-not-win-anything-from-the-black-market

      Learn to read. No where does it say that crates cannot have different win rates. It says all players have the same rate of winning and that z8 cannot CHANGE the win rate of any crate. This means that they cannot change the win rate after it has been set (by the developers/monetisation team) with events such as "double win rate in black market for all of december". Doesn't say anything about setting the win rate for costume crates higher in the first place.

      You are completely wrong on everything you said regarding the black market. It's all luck based, we know this because lootbox microtransactions are classified as gambling in China and they are under a legal obligation to release win rates for the black market, which showed that its just a static percent chance of winning. No other factors like time of day or date play a role in win rate.

      You just want to believe its rigged because your butthurt you didnt win anything.

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